When I found these very old growth burls and I knew they wanted to become drums. I consulted Jerry as to the construction and theory of building drums. I wanted to build these they are my first drums but not my last. Jerry Austens is a world travelled guy who went on a mission to learn about drums globally and disciplined by many old school drum builders world wide he is also very skilled in many other arts. I was given the highest honors and approvals from this guy when I finished he said he learned a bit from my workmen-ship and would someday ask for my input. WOW . After this build my whole world stepped up to a whole new art level. I would be honored to make you 1.